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LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
6/20/2013 1:51 pm

Wow! This looks simple and good now!!!

In the first option I didn't like the calculations as they were visible and easy to manipulate if wanted so.

This list is still there:
'Active Blogs (by unique responses)' but at least it's not jumping on my nose unless I choose to check it out... but it might cause some trouble as some consider it gives them extra powers etc... which then might again lead to drama.

Looking forward to the next steps!


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
6/20/2013 1:57 pm

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    Careful! I was just "excluded" for quoting her.

    Apparently it's called "long-term harassment"
... it might be close to stalking too...
You are visiting the same post...

Still wondering what that harassment is, did ask about that and about some other 'features', never got a reply.

And it just doesn't fit my European mentality that discussion on a public forum is harassment - if quoting someone!!!
In my world it's harassment if not able to justify that kind of claims.

Sorry folkes, a bit out of order, haven't spoken a word of English for a week...

But cool to see this site / Blogland is improving!!!


QUEENBEEV 58F
4200 posts
6/20/2013 3:56 pm

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    Careful! I was just "excluded" for quoting her.

    Apparently it's called "long-term harassment"
Ditto...

And...please don't ban me for quoting that you quoted someone!



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QUEENBEEV 58F
4200 posts
6/20/2013 3:59 pm

    Quoting  :

Again...ditto...

And...same as below...please spare me the banning!

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FullOn4U 58M
20399 posts
6/21/2013 1:19 am

    Quoting  :

It is disappointing that they won't tell me what I did wrong, despite me asking repeatedly "so I won't do it again"

I imagine that they take action and then review the situation, which is why the exclusion is so temporary because the accusations are groundless.


Centaur_UK 46M
1770 posts
6/21/2013 7:19 am

    Quoting FullOn4U:
    It is disappointing that they won't tell me what I did wrong, despite me asking repeatedly "so I won't do it again"

    I imagine that they take action and then review the situation, which is why the exclusion is so temporary because the accusations are groundless.
I had one of my blogs removed and my account here was suspended a few years ago after i had a disagreement with someone on 04j.com and wrote a blog about it. I was very careful in my blog not to break the terms of use though, and i never named any member either by their username or real name. I never used any bad language toward anyone or called them any names, however someone (and i assume it was the person i had the original disagreement with) must have reported my blog to the site. All the site would say is that my account was suspended for harassment of another member, and i asked them to give me evidence of this as i never broke the terms of use. They could'nt come up with any evidence, but still removed the offending blog from my profile?
My suspension was lifted from my account within a few days but i really do think the site should explain to people why action has been taken against them and what terms of use they are deemed to have broken....if any?

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missingu2012 74M
3135 posts
6/21/2013 10:44 am

I can think of one analogy to the rotating/multiple choice searches: Academy Awards and the Screen Actors Guild!

There are "Best Of" categories for Comedy, Drama, Horror, Animation, etc. There are categories for scripts, acting, cinematography, etc. Finally there is Best XXX of the Year, be it movie, actor, supporting actor, writers. These are all voted on by members of the movie community.
Additionally, and separately, there is the whole world of the movie critics.

Have you noticed how many times, the movies that win "Best Of" titles, or what the critics deem "excellent", aren't always the highest money making movies? How boring would life be if the only movies we could see were the ones that won awards, or critics deemed worthy watching?

I feel we as a community should be free to find what appeals to our own interests. Search tools that facilitate that are always a boon.

Perhaps adding more search choices to aide in what blog types are displayed would help : Photo essays, (many categories: people, things, places, flowers)...political commentary, daily insights, advice posts, erotic writings, etc... just throwing out a few for starters. When someone writes and submits a post, maybe a little button for selecting the category they want that particular post to be highlighted under.


LadyLuck2 67F  
9091 posts
6/21/2013 12:35 pm

Aryana, The new layout with the trending blogs looks great! I like the new look and all the links to the left. What an improvement! Someone deserves a bonus or a raise or a flower on her desk!

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you will have lost diamonds
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LadyLuck2 67F  
9091 posts
6/21/2013 12:40 pm

After reading Missingu2012's comments about a search feature, I was thinking it would be nice to be able to retrace the blogs I've viewed in a different manner other than hitting the back arrow. On the online shopping and retail sites they track what a person has recently viewed so you can easily find the item.Perhaps that is a possibility??

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you will have lost diamonds
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LadyLuck2 67F  
9091 posts
6/21/2013 12:45 pm

Some people's egos and self worth are so tied to their ass!

Never ignore those who care for you
you will have lost diamonds
while you were collecting stones


Centaur_UK 46M
1770 posts
6/21/2013 7:53 pm

    Quoting  :

I agree about one post per blogger showing on the board. Surely the whole idea of the change was to showcase a wide variety of different blogs?
It can't be good to let spam and speed bloggers take up multiple positions on the same board, that just does'nt seem fair?

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LadyLuck2 67F  
9091 posts
6/22/2013 12:37 am

Aryana, Using the new blog page I clicked on my watched blogs and the page appeared but not all of my watched blogs were listed.

Never ignore those who care for you
you will have lost diamonds
while you were collecting stones


sexysixties2 106F
39750 posts
6/22/2013 12:50 am

    Quoting LadyLuck2:
    Aryana, Using the new blog page I clicked on my watched blogs and the page appeared but not all of my watched blogs were listed.
I thought that at first...but then I saw the "view all" button at the top right hand side of the list...that takes you to the full list as before.

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japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/22/2013 9:48 am

    Quoting  :

this was taken on 6/22/13 12:39 PM.

i see two bloggers have two post listed on this list.

can you clarify about the rules? how often do you rotate this list? and do you limit the number of post from bloggers?


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/22/2013 12:40 pm

    Quoting  :

i can agree with you, Sandra, i wanna know how posts are selected for the trending post.

as far as i can see, not much of the trending post list is changing...quite static to me...yes, i can see nothing older than two day period. but i have two bloggers, each has two posts listed on "trending post" list. so in short, 4 slots are taken by the two bloggers. this is exactly i didn't wanna see.


lindoboy100 61M
23969 posts
6/22/2013 12:51 pm

    Quoting japaneseass:
    i can agree with you, Sandra, i wanna know how posts are selected for the trending post.

    as far as i can see, not much of the trending post list is changing...quite static to me...yes, i can see nothing older than two day period. but i have two bloggers, each has two posts listed on "trending post" list. so in short, 4 slots are taken by the two bloggers. this is exactly i didn't wanna see.
Hey McJA, how're ye doin'?

There's definitely something funny going on with the trending list then, because if I look at it every half hour or so it changes quite a bit. Maybe if you try opening the page a-fresh say one hour after the previous time you'll see quite a difference?

Aryana, is there any reason that you might know of as to why some people like McJA seem to see a fairly static list, yet others like me seem to see it as dynamic?

Good word that, 'dynamic', I need to use it more often!


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/22/2013 3:39 pm

    Quoting  :

i also like the idea of "like button"...

since it's reader based approach, it is fair to all the bloggers, either to the bloggers who write lengthy posts, or to the photo bloggers...

but again, i know some people on here would scream, "it's like popularity contest"...

well, either way, i don't really care what approach is used, i just want a fair system to all of us. that's all.


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/22/2013 4:17 pm

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    Hey McJA, how're ye doin'?

    There's definitely something funny going on with the trending list then, because if I look at it every half hour or so it changes quite a bit. Maybe if you try opening the page a-fresh say one hour after the previous time you'll see quite a difference?

    Aryana, is there any reason that you might know of as to why some people like McJA seem to see a fairly static list, yet others like me seem to see it as dynamic?

    Good word that, 'dynamic', I need to use it more often!
mine did not change every hour or so...

well, just for curiosity, i compared the screen shot that i took today. one was taken around noon, and the other was taken at 6 pm (eastern time zone).

during this 6 hour period, i have 11 of 20 posts are the same.
which is, at 6 pm this afternoon, 9 posts dropped from the noon list, and new 9 posts are added.

in short, after 6 hours, more than half of the posts stays on that list. and once you made the list, it will stay up there for two days period?

so here you go, here is the fact, i don't know if this is considered to be dynamic.

but all i want to say is that, there are whole lot more bloggers in this blog section. if the site is doing this to bring a lot more exposure to other bloggers, chances are the light will never shine on them either. i am just saying.

my suggestion would be that, they might need to rotate lot faster than that?? i know it should not be as fast as "recently post" but maybe totally change every 6 hours??? and stay there for a day???


LadyGrayLeopard 63F
26369 posts
6/22/2013 4:23 pm

    Quoting  :

The 'LIKE' option is something I love in FB (and more or less the only option I'd like to bring here...) !
It shows you've read the post, agree and like it, yet no need to comment.

Here the option is either something irrelevant like I love your ass / I'd like to chat with you or then nothing.


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/22/2013 9:37 pm

i just compared to two list on my screen, this is about midnight, 6/23, and previous screen shot, 6/22 6 pm.

again, out of 20, 11 posts are static, and 9 are dropped, and replaced by 9 new posts.

i just want each and every bloggers to think, if this is the way we want. remember, more than half of the list is static.

in my opinion, 20 posts is not really enough to showcase the entire bloggers, so how can we achieve this goal???

and most importantly, this is the opportunity to expose more bloggers that go normally unnoticed.

again, there is a blogger with two posts on this one, too.


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/23/2013 3:31 am

    Quoting lindoboy100:
    Hey McJA, how're ye doin'?

    There's definitely something funny going on with the trending list then, because if I look at it every half hour or so it changes quite a bit. Maybe if you try opening the page a-fresh say one hour after the previous time you'll see quite a difference?

    Aryana, is there any reason that you might know of as to why some people like McJA seem to see a fairly static list, yet others like me seem to see it as dynamic?

    Good word that, 'dynamic', I need to use it more often!
see i told you, lindo, just to prove my point, here in this screen shot, i have only 6 new posts. 14 out of 20 posts are static from 6 hours ago, or perhaps more.

this got to be static. and again, there are a blogger with two posts here, too.

what i want to know is that, why some of you (like you), see more fast rotation rate?


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/23/2013 9:25 am

    Quoting  :

Thank you for your information, and i just went to read your blog post, [post 3179154], and basically i just wanted to share what i said with every one here. i think it's relevant.




re: length of post and number of commenters. Is this the fairest way to go?

i am thinking that myself also. ok, i am not gonna use the word "quality" but, so in the end, they are "valuing" lengthy post more than short one. to me, that is not fair at all.

the most important thing is that this new system is to bring a light on the less noticeable bloggers...

so why don't they just use the random system, just like the current "actively watched" section...of course current version shows only three bloggers but hey, if we can put 20 different bloggers up there, that would be very random and also changes every time, refresh the page. (trending list is two day decay)

actually i suggested to the site about this elaborated version of "actively watched" list, when we had a blog war with a lady in the blue dress. but of course, nothing has done back then.

it's hard for me to say, what values more in blog. just like in music or movie, or even in an art, we have different styles. and that's the beauty of it. all are different and and unique. the same thing applies to the blog. we have different blog styles, some might like lengthy erotica , or just diary style, or like me, i like just photo blog. so who is the one to say, which style is more important to the other bloggers, for that reason, we have watched blog list. (again, i am staying away from word, quality.)

and can they limit the number of post from a blogger on the list??? the seat are limited to 20...if they hog up the two space, wouldn't you care??? heck recently i had seen 4 slots are taken by two bloggers. that's 4 out of 20. that's 20 percent, dedicated to two bloggers. is that considered to be fair?

i am all for the change, if changes are done into the right direction.

we are doing this, to avoid the future blog wars, and i surely ain't gonna go though another change in the future or stuck in something i am not happy with it.

sorry if i offended someone here or, if you think i am highjacking your post. i just wanted to express my opinion.


BrownEyedBBW 55F  
8831 posts
6/24/2013 2:53 pm

I've been looking at the new format a few times a day since we got the beta link and still like it very much. I'm curious though, for people who are critical of it, what other websites have a front page that you *do* like. Maybe that will yield some ideas that we've missed?


japaneseass 56F  
50231 posts
6/24/2013 4:33 pm

    Quoting community:
    Hi japaneseass,

    There's been a long conversation about this topic here the past few weeks, so there is a lot of insight from lots of members throughout the past few posts. I'd suggest you skim them if and when you have a chance, but I will brief you as to why the list behaves as it currently does:

    The problem many bloggers brought to our attention is that the blog page has a self-perpetuating leaderboard. It has certain benefits, because those blogs are active and engage lots of users, but it is highly unlikely for any other blogger to appear on that list if they are not blogging 24 hours a day and getting 100+ comments per post. This isn't the best design to showcase the variety of activity around the community here, but it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a place to showcase the activity the community exhibits.

    Initially, many people shared that they felt a completely random option would be best to diminish the blog wars. Of course this is important to us as a company, because we want our users to engage positively with one another in a positive environment. Negativity in any way is not good for you as a user or good for us as a company. However, only showing a completely random assortment of blogs on the blog main page deprives new and active users from access to hubs of real-time activity and conversation within the community.

    The page we've designed includes all the columns you find on the current blog page, as well as the 'Trending Blog Posts' and 'Random Blog Posts' column. We are trying to strike a balance that does try to meet fairness (the main reason that we kept the 'Random Blog Posts' option).

    Trending posts are not 'selected' by us. We've created an algorithm, and every post that is submitted is scored independently of the other. jonthomas' response below does a good job explaining how posts are measured. It's not an exact science, but we're looking at a formula to showcase where conversations are happening, what content is drawing attention and engagement.

    We are currently adding another metric that would include a larger sampling of blog posts, rather than the text-heavy posts that appear right now.

    Keep in mind that we can't show everyone on any one column. That's why we've provided options. Random for those who want random, Active for those who want to see more of what they're used to, Trending for users to see what posts are getting a lot of engagement, and 'Classic View' for those who want their blog page to remain as it is now. There's also the 'View Most Watched Blogs' list that you mention.

    Trending posts don't appear on the column after 2 days. We felt this was a good amount of time to highlight good content, and allow users who don't log in every single day to get a glimpse of where hot spots of activity were while they were not logged in. This doesn't mean that the list you're looking at moves every second. It's movement is triggered by member activity -- not some metric we assign to it. When you guys talk and respond, in any blog post, that list changes. Maybe 9 dropped off in 6 or 8 hours. That's a very different system than what everyone has been dealing with. In another 6 hours, 9 more could drop off -- and in another 6 hours...

    We really hope that these changes to the blog page will address the long standing concerns of the blog community. We are soon going to be including blog activity within every user's activity feed, so the trending column does a good job for giving access to newbies to where users are talking in real-time. Time will tell if we've struck a good balance, but we too hope that these steps take us in the right direction.
Aryana,

Thank you so much for your fast reply.

I am all for this new blog movement, and over all, you have done a good job in designing. It's simple, and I especially love the links on the left column, since it's easy to get to the different blog list.

Like you have mentioned in your reply, if you can add another metric that would include a larger sampling of blog posts, I will appreciate.

Again, thank you so much...

japaneseass


Centaur_UK 46M
1770 posts
6/25/2013 9:25 am

Aryana, can you please clarify if a member is allowed to have multiple blog posts on the same board?
Many times i've looked at the trending blogs page and some members blogs are taking up multiple positions on the same board. This really does'nt seem fair and i was under the impression that this was'nt allowed to happen?
I think you did say in a previous post somewhere that speed bloggers would'nt be able to "game" the system, and show up more than once on the same page?
If members are posting several blogs per day, then only the most popular or the one with the most feedback should show on the board.
In the interest of fairness please lets have one blog post per blogger showing on the board.

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